Episode 131: Supporting Autistic Learners Through Passion and Play w/ Cari Ebert

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In this encore episode of The Autism Little Learners Podcast, Tara reconnects with Cari Ebert, a respected speech-language pathologist and passionate advocate for neurodiversity-affirming practices. Together, they revisit a powerful conversation that redefines what play and connection can look like for autistic children.

Cari shares valuable insights into why autistic play is real, meaningful, and should be honored as such. She explains how deep interests can be a gateway to learning, joy, and communication—and how adults can build stronger relationships with children by embracing these passions. The episode also explores the idea of presuming competence and cultivating supportive environments where every child feels seen and valued.

Whether you’re hearing this conversation for the first time or listening again, it’s packed with practical ideas and heart-centered strategies to help you support autistic children in ways that truly honor who they are.

Key Takeaways

  • Autistic children experience and express play in unique, valid ways.
  • Deep interests are powerful tools for building trust and engagement.
  • Connection and respect must come before compliance or correction.
  • Play is not a prerequisite for learning—it is learning.
  • Presuming competence opens the door to authentic communication.
  • Environments that support individuality fuel growth and joy.
  • Reflecting on our practices helps us better support each child.

Bio

Cari Ebert, MS, CCC-SLP, is a pediatric speech-language pathologist in private practice in the Kansas City, Missouri area. She received her bachelor’s degree from the University of Iowa in 1993 and her master’s degree from Southern Illinois University at Carbondale in 1995. Cari is a therapist, consultant, author, product developer, and nationally recognized speaker who gets paid to do what she loves most—TALK! She has an animated personality, and this translates to a high-energy speaking style. Cari has an Autistic son, allowing her to engage audiences both as a professional and as a parent of a neurodivergent child.

Website: www.cariebert.com

Cari’s free handout “Autistic Play Is Authentic Play”: https://cariebert.com/freebie

Using Song Choice Boards to Support Participation During Group Times

Group activities like songs and movement can be joyful, but they can also move quickly, rely heavily on spoken language, and feel unpredictable for some children.

Song choice boards offer a simple way to slow things down and make group times more accessible.

By pairing music choices with visuals, children are given:

✔ a clear way to see what options are available

✔ a predictable structure for what’s coming next

✔ an opportunity to participate in shared decision-making

To support you in getting started, we’ve created a set of Themed Song Choice Boards you can download and use right away.

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